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How wide is the racial divide in brown-black voting? Discuss today's Blowback.
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Have you seen the Virginia returns? Obama is basically tying Clinton among whites.
Here's an article that basically refutes the so called "Bradley Effect".
http://www.eyesonobama.com/blog/content/id_7001/title_Whos-tired-of-hearing-about-the-Bradley-Effect/
GOBama!
2. Latino voting trends will only be detrimental to future Latino politicians and proposed laws that favor them. When Latinos put forth viable candidates for President in the future, blacks in the East, Mid-West, and South will surely remember and vote against them. The outcome: whites win. This surely is simplistic and narrow minded, but nonetheless accurate in light of today's racially charged political atmosphere. Without the black Civil Rights Movement there would not be a Chicano movement: they're both symbiotic and reliant upon one another. Without foresight the future looks bleak for every candidate of color.
3. This divide is political in concept and execution. Percy Sutton could have been New York's first black mayor, if Herman Badillo who ran unsuccessfully for mayor 5 times had supported him and brought the Hispanic vote to the Democratic primary of 1977 for Sutton and not been politcally inspired to enter the race. His entrance pulled the Hispanic vote for him of which neither he or Sutton could win without both the Brown and Black votes. This allowed Ed koch to win and go on to be Mayor. Seven Mayors of New York all have come from the Boro of Mahattan of which Sutton was Boro President. Badillo was a congressman from the Bronx .
4. It is incorrect to characterize the Latino voting pattern in Super Tuesday outcomes in California as the result of a brown-black racial divide. Name recognition is the story here, and Clinton's advantage on this count began in 1992. Latinos supported Clinton because they recognized her name and remember her husband's administration. The fact that 1/3 of CA Latinos voters supported Obama on Feb 5 is testament enough to the support that a black candidate can marshal among Latino voters, despite low name recognition. And where he is recognized, such as IL, Latinos gave him a majority of their support.
5. It's dangerous to lump all Latinos in one voting group based on one grandfather's racist attitudes. The Latino community is so diverse and evolving - regarding race, country of origin, immigration status, age - that a few past political races cannot begin to explain current voting patterns. One explanation for Latinos going for Clinton instead of Obama, for example, is that they know the Clinton name. And as every marketer will say, "Hispanics are loyal." That is, until that changes, too, and marketers figure out how to sway different segments within the Latino community.
6. So your grandfather returned to vote against Tom Bradley in 1982. Now, a quarter-century later, have you maintained his prejudice? Because Latinos are a young population, who must decide which of the old ways should be kept, and which discarded. Since your grandfather's time Latinos have served in Desert Storm under Gen. Colin Powell & African Americans have served in OIF under Lt. Gen. Ricardo Sanchez. People think & vote differently now.
7. There is so much pressure for Latinos to vote for Obama now to prove they're NOT racist that papers, unions etc endorse him. He is openly pandering, La Opinion states clearly they chose him altho Hillary is super qualified w xlnt civil right records BECAUSE he promised licenses to illegals and citizenship path his 1st year; he said at debates that it's scapegoating to say illegals have any neg. impact on economy, while 2007 Antonovich report proves they cost LA Cty $1 BILL/Yr. excluding schools. This gets him pol/union endorsements but avg. Latino doesn't see selves as "people of color."
8. If the main point in this article is even generally true, The Republicans instead of trying to send all illegal latinos back, should really start to embrace them. Nothing the Republicans like more than ignorant or bigoted minorities with votes in their hands. For your grandfather to spend money to return from Mexico to vote against Bradley, because he would never vote for a black man, either shows remarkable stupidity and/or incurable bigotry. The Republicans should start exploiting this type of individual post haste. There is a minefield of votes to be gained.
9. It will be interesting to see what the candidates do if there are marches on May 1st. so far, those marches have only proven to the american people that the illegal immigrants and their supporters have no respect for this country....and that the goal is reconquista. Will the candidates show up for the marches?
10. you are speculating by removing congessional districts from your analysis. The reason the turnout is low and no opposition is that latinos in her community are satisfied with her performance
Submitted by: Tri Le
2. Latino voting trends will only be detrimental to future Latino politicians and proposed laws that favor them. When Latinos put forth viable candidates for President in the future, blacks in the East, Mid-West, and South will surely remember and vote against them. The outcome: whites win. This surely is simplistic and narrow minded, but nonetheless accurate in light of today's racially charged political atmosphere. Without the black Civil Rights Movement there would not be a Chicano movement: they're both symbiotic and reliant upon one another. Without foresight the future looks bleak for every candidate of color.
Submitted by: Thomas Lee
3. This divide is political in concept and execution. Percy Sutton could have been New York's first black mayor, if Herman Badillo who ran unsuccessfully for mayor 5 times had supported him and brought the Hispanic vote to the Democratic primary of 1977 for Sutton and not been politcally inspired to enter the race. His entrance pulled the Hispanic vote for him of which neither he or Sutton could win without both the Brown and Black votes. This allowed Ed koch to win and go on to be Mayor. Seven Mayors of New York all have come from the Boro of Mahattan of which Sutton was Boro President. Badillo was a congressman from the Bronx .
Submitted by: Ted
4. It is incorrect to characterize the Latino voting pattern in Super Tuesday outcomes in California as the result of a brown-black racial divide. Name recognition is the story here, and Clinton's advantage on this count began in 1992. Latinos supported Clinton because they recognized her name and remember her husband's administration. The fact that 1/3 of CA Latinos voters supported Obama on Feb 5 is testament enough to the support that a black candidate can marshal among Latino voters, despite low name recognition. And where he is recognized, such as IL, Latinos gave him a majority of their support.
Submitted by: Francisco
5. It's dangerous to lump all Latinos in one voting group based on one grandfather's racist attitudes. The Latino community is so diverse and evolving - regarding race, country of origin, immigration status, age - that a few past political races cannot begin to explain current voting patterns. One explanation for Latinos going for Clinton instead of Obama, for example, is that they know the Clinton name. And as every marketer will say, "Hispanics are loyal." That is, until that changes, too, and marketers figure out how to sway different segments within the Latino community.
Submitted by: Elena
6. So your grandfather returned to vote against Tom Bradley in 1982. Now, a quarter-century later, have you maintained his prejudice? Because Latinos are a young population, who must decide which of the old ways should be kept, and which discarded. Since your grandfather's time Latinos have served in Desert Storm under Gen. Colin Powell & African Americans have served in OIF under Lt. Gen. Ricardo Sanchez. People think & vote differently now.
Submitted by: Soldier's Mom
7. There is so much pressure for Latinos to vote for Obama now to prove they're NOT racist that papers, unions etc endorse him. He is openly pandering, La Opinion states clearly they chose him altho Hillary is super qualified w xlnt civil right records BECAUSE he promised licenses to illegals and citizenship path his 1st year; he said at debates that it's scapegoating to say illegals have any neg. impact on economy, while 2007 Antonovich report proves they cost LA Cty $1 BILL/Yr. excluding schools. This gets him pol/union endorsements but avg. Latino doesn't see selves as "people of color."
Submitted by: jill
8. If the main point in this article is even generally true, The Republicans instead of trying to send all illegal latinos back, should really start to embrace them. Nothing the Republicans like more than ignorant or bigoted minorities with votes in their hands. For your grandfather to spend money to return from Mexico to vote against Bradley, because he would never vote for a black man, either shows remarkable stupidity and/or incurable bigotry. The Republicans should start exploiting this type of individual post haste. There is a minefield of votes to be gained.
Submitted by: Danny Boy 1
9. It will be interesting to see what the candidates do if there are marches on May 1st. so far, those marches have only proven to the american people that the illegal immigrants and their supporters have no respect for this country....and that the goal is reconquista. Will the candidates show up for the marches?
Submitted by: MB
10. you are speculating by removing congessional districts from your analysis. The reason the turnout is low and no opposition is that latinos in her community are satisfied with her performance
Submitted by: e
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