Chile's 9/11
Discuss Heraldo Muñoz's Sept. 11 Op-Ed article.
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The US government practices hypocrisy in the extreme. It topples the democratically elected governments of Chile in 1973 and supports a non-elected fascist junta that murders thousands of its citizens. It topples the popularly elected Mohammed Mozadegh in Iran and installs the fascist Shah of Iran in 1953. It topples the democratically elected government of Jacobo Arbenz in Guatemala in 1956 and installs a brutal right wing fascist junta. The US government supports "democracy" when it furthers its capitalist goals of expanding markets for its products.
El Carnal @ 9:57 AM PDT, Sep 12, 2008
I' m a economist and I admit that the Pinochet' s economics reformers were (and still are) good for Chile. But it's necessary see that all this could be done without a extarordinary violence wich characterize the Pinochet's dictatorship. And many publications & documents show that Allende wouldn' t be like Fidel Castro. In september, he tried to create an election that the people will decide if the UP's social reformers will continue - an act very democratic.
Francisco @ 7:39 AM PDT, Sep 12, 2008
How many of the people here really know anything about Chile? He didn't steal billions from his country , he wasn´t ripping women off the streat and throwing them out of helicopters. He was a cold war puppet. No on ever mentions howAllende had Cuban "advisors" all over and suspended the Supreme Court. It wasn´t a democracy. The comparisons to people like Hitler, Amin, or even other S.American dictators are silly. The man held a referendem vote, stepped aside, and left the country better than he found it. Most Chileans will of course agree that the man stayed in power way too long.
michael @ 6:47 AM PDT, Sep 12, 2008
Just look how the local fascists glorify the tyrant and murderer Pinochet whose rampages were orchestrated by the US government, in secret. America has a large contingent of brown-nosing fascists who applaud every abuse and murder that is committed by right-wing despots. This is why the US government has been able to undermine every progressive society that has tried to throw off the yoke of US imperialism and has given support and shelter to murderers such as Pinochet, Somoza, and Duvalier. Such behavior is typical for fascist thugs and torturers, as well as their sympathizers.
zorbathegeek @ 6:21 AM PDT, Sep 12, 2008
continued... Fact, if Chile had not kept the copper mines nationalized they never could have come back from the disaster unleashed by Pinochet/Nixon/Kissinger/Friedman. Fact, death squads, killing political enemies, going against the will of the people, can never be written off. I can't believe you would post an article like this!!!
Jeff @ 5:26 AM PDT, Sep 12, 2008
"Many of those who backed the 1973 coup had wanted the armed forces to simply restore order and then call for elections. " From that line forward this piece is pure crap revisionist and tries to escapes the facts. Fact, Allende was democratically elected. Fact, the US did all it could to destroy his administration, causing the lack of order that Pinochet was to "restore order " to???
Jeff @ 5:26 AM PDT, Sep 12, 2008
When judging Piinochet's coup and regime you must compare them to realistic alternatives and not a romatasized notion of a social democracy that was never in the cards. In '73 Chile was a pawn in the cold war and heading towards civil war; the economy devestated and the political infrastructure crumbling. While devestating, the coup may well have pre-empted an even blodier civil war and social collapse. The repression was awful, but the alternatives were all ugly. In the middle of the ruble reality is often grey, the black and white perceived from a distance not existant. 35 years later I still don't know if the alternatives were better.
pat @ 11:41 PM PDT, Sep 11, 2008
As Machiavelli noted, taking power and keeping it is an art, and Pinochet was inarguably good at it. Hitler was, too--but cleverness and power are distinct from heroism. Anyone who believes in democratic principles and human rights recognizes Pinochet violated every ethical and moral principle. The real heroes are those who helped others survive under Pinochet, whether the doctors in the concentration camps who kept their fellow prisoners alive or those who struggled to find their abducted relatives and friends. Pinochet is a hero to the devil, maybe. Economic prosperity is fine and good, but not at any price.
Peg O'Callaghan @ 10:28 PM PDT, Sep 11, 2008
Is incredible that in this news paper give space for a person with the ideas of mr. Heraldo Munoz, he was in the comunist goverment of Allende. The US have bad memory but Allende stole all the invesment in the cupper minnning , he stole all the properties and many life with that, like my family. Please keep the things by your names, Allende was a comunist that broke our country, and we were so lucky that have a integrity to take our country as the first in all terms of development. Those people who died, I am sorry but we were in a civil war.
Felix de Vicente @ 9:27 PM PDT, Sep 11, 2008
Pinochet is currently burning in hell alongside Kissenger.
steve @ 7:38 PM PDT, Sep 11, 2008
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