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Offer just one instance in recorded history where the ruling junta freely and without hesitation granted relief to a social injustice. Just one!!!
Don X. M. Fernandez de la Reguera R. @ 10:26 AM PST, Dec 4, 2008
Compard to the vicious lies that are typically spread about gay people, the attacked are nothing undeserving.
Jonathan @ 10:23 AM PST, Dec 4, 2008
Kudos to the Mormons for taking a stand! The squeaky wheel minority always gets the oil - until now. I'm tired of anyone who doesn't agree with the gay agenda being called intolerant and a bigot. The problem is tolerance and understanding is a one way street. You all know it. I am proud to have stood with the MAJORITY of Californias (Mormons included) TWICE to legally, peacably, and resoundingly confirm that it is noone's right to redefine marriage. The gay's hateful attack of the Mormon church has caused me to realize that I have an unexpected ally.
Wanna Be Mormon @ 10:20 AM PST, Dec 4, 2008
Who is the minority group here? It could easily be argued that the "majority" of America is attacking a minority religious group.
Evelyn @ 10:01 AM PST, Dec 4, 2008
Well said
mmw @ 10:00 AM PST, Dec 4, 2008
The Mormons should have respected the tenet that the churches should not try to influence policy, especially to the degree they did. The Mormons are a fringe sect, albeit it a large one, and for them to deign to discriminate against a whole group of people is outrageous. I am not gay, but I really resent their intrusion into our State's political process. They have shown themselves to be bigoted bullies and that they can "dish it out but not take it." If they were really Christians they would want others to be treated well, not as outcasts.
MariM @ 9:55 AM PST, Dec 4, 2008
The mainstream Mormon church did in fact contribute vast sums of money to eliminate fundamental rights for homosexuals. This is a FACT, unlike the stereotypes used against Jews and Muslims mentioned by the columnist. In fairness though I do think the Proposition 8 opponents should have targeted the black churches that overwhelmingly supported prop 8. It boggles the mind how after the struggle black americans had to endure to secure equal rights that they would turn their back on a group going through the same thing. Shame on you.
MD @ 9:53 AM PST, Dec 4, 2008
America is wonderful because people have the right of free speech--to support what they believe in. Who's to say that Mormons can't support their point of view? Proposition 8 came down to a vote, not a count of who paid more money.
MGike @ 9:50 AM PST, Dec 4, 2008
GPaul, Utah "interfering" with the California election? Why don't you look at other states' contributions before you expose yourself to faulty, hypocritical reasoning? http://www.sfgate.com/webdb/prop8/ Donations from Utah: 567 for, 157 against (ratio of 3.6 to 1). Donations from NY: 2,242 against, 50 (ratio of 44.8 to 1 in the opposite direction). No asked for New York progressives to interfere with religious rights in California, but they still did.
Clud @ 9:35 AM PST, Dec 4, 2008
Oh Mr. Goldberg, I will save a sit for you at the back of the bus. Using morality, based in religion or otherwise, to take away a minority's civil right but granting that right to said moral majority is wrong. Being gay I can commiserate with the Mormons feeling demonized. The difference is, they deserve it.
Joe Smith @ 9:25 AM PST, Dec 4, 2008
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