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Look at today’s news. UCLA gave priority to a Japanese Mafia leader for a liver transplant and that’s typical. How is it that foreigners get doctorates from UCLA when they can't speak English while virtually all the local students are deemed unqualified to get in the undergraduate program. The reason is the system is rent with bribery, which is right out in the open. The billion dollars "bonus pool" a few years ago was nothing but a massive slush fund. The reason no criminal investigation was opened is the whole state is involved as well as the LAPD. California is no different than Baja California. The FBI needs to go after this big time.
2. Raise student fees. Period. Kick out the illegals. Prosecute the admissions officers who permit them entry. (Yes, I know they have academic merit, but it is wrong to admit them when you reject 25,000 qualified citizens.) The UC system has enough money. Get over it.
3. Educational Policy Wonk is only telling part of the story here. The UC data re. Subject tests (2 separate studies): (1) a four-year study which showed that the subject tests are better at predicting FYCGPA than either HSGPA or SAT Reasoning test. More recent study is that Subject tests are better predictor of overall college performance than the SAT Reasoning test. If you are going to eliminate a test, get rid of the SAT Reasoning test, not the SAT Subject tests.
4. Mr. Yudof, please take leadership in the battle over the UC budget. Please educate our public officials – and our people–about the terrible costs of reducing access to high quality education. Don’t buy into the fiction that we can smooth things over by raising student fees and increasing charitable donations. Without strong leadership, middle and working class Californian families will find it increasingly difficult to send their children to college – and those who do manage to get into one of our state universities will find the quality falling, just as the quality of K-12 education has fallen. The whole state will all be the poorer.
5. re: Undocumented immigrant students- From a UCLA Alumnus- No aid, No loans, No financial support and no preferences for in-state / residency registration fees. They impact students who are here legally and others who have green cards, since these people have followed the law. We call it managing resources in an effective manner. Looking for dollars? Drill for oil under Lot 32 at UCLA, if Occidental Oil hasn't performed a slant drilling operation and pumped all of the oil out. BTW, regarding endowments, let's have an audit and see where the endowment money is going.
6. more re SAT subject tests.. All the subject tests have ever done is discourage otherwise good applicants from applying - it's the single biggest barrier to UC eligibility, for those students whose grades and SATI scores make them otherwise eligible.
7. re: the SAT Subject tests - actually, all available research, including studies done using UC student data, shows that the subject tests are not as predictive of post-1st year college grades as are high school grades. Like the SAT I tests, the only thing that the SAT subject tests do even marginally well at is predicting 1st year grades. The fall apart. The only exception is the SAT Writing test, which used to be a stand-alone subject test and is now part of the required SATI battery.
8. I would suggest that parts of the UC system have become subsidized farms that look more like exotic zoos than enterprises with reasonable economic and cultural goals. Why Latin American and Iberian Studies cannot be subsumed under Spanish, or Medieval Studies under History, would perhaps be an interesting thesis for those in the departments of Philosophy. Or perhaps we could start a new department: Canon Studies. A proprietary pen for every species corresponds to significant inefficiencies. Undergraduates with a disposition to the humanities primarily need to understand methodology in broad field areas, not atomistic content.
9. I think it is shameful that UC's workers are so underpaid that many have to rely on state assistance. Workers are not asking to be paid more than other workers in comparable jobs at other hospitals, they are asking for market wages. UC workers need equal pay for equal work. Get real UC!
10. The UC Board of Admissions and Relations with Schools (BOARS) has proposed ending the requirement that students take the SAT Subject tests. That's a bad idea. The Subject tests are often the best yardstick that admissions’ evaluators have to predict how students will fare once they get to college. Rather than eliminate Subject tests, UC should work with high schools to make sure that qualified students understand the need, and have the chance, to take those tests.
Submitted by: Frank P
2. Raise student fees. Period. Kick out the illegals. Prosecute the admissions officers who permit them entry. (Yes, I know they have academic merit, but it is wrong to admit them when you reject 25,000 qualified citizens.) The UC system has enough money. Get over it.
Submitted by: Rob Martin
3. Educational Policy Wonk is only telling part of the story here. The UC data re. Subject tests (2 separate studies): (1) a four-year study which showed that the subject tests are better at predicting FYCGPA than either HSGPA or SAT Reasoning test. More recent study is that Subject tests are better predictor of overall college performance than the SAT Reasoning test. If you are going to eliminate a test, get rid of the SAT Reasoning test, not the SAT Subject tests.
Submitted by: Retain SAT Subject tests
4. Mr. Yudof, please take leadership in the battle over the UC budget. Please educate our public officials – and our people–about the terrible costs of reducing access to high quality education. Don’t buy into the fiction that we can smooth things over by raising student fees and increasing charitable donations. Without strong leadership, middle and working class Californian families will find it increasingly difficult to send their children to college – and those who do manage to get into one of our state universities will find the quality falling, just as the quality of K-12 education has fallen. The whole state will all be the poorer.
Submitted by: C. Rosen
5. re: Undocumented immigrant students- From a UCLA Alumnus- No aid, No loans, No financial support and no preferences for in-state / residency registration fees. They impact students who are here legally and others who have green cards, since these people have followed the law. We call it managing resources in an effective manner. Looking for dollars? Drill for oil under Lot 32 at UCLA, if Occidental Oil hasn't performed a slant drilling operation and pumped all of the oil out. BTW, regarding endowments, let's have an audit and see where the endowment money is going.
Submitted by: Steve M.
6. more re SAT subject tests.. All the subject tests have ever done is discourage otherwise good applicants from applying - it's the single biggest barrier to UC eligibility, for those students whose grades and SATI scores make them otherwise eligible.
Submitted by: Educational Policy Wonk
7. re: the SAT Subject tests - actually, all available research, including studies done using UC student data, shows that the subject tests are not as predictive of post-1st year college grades as are high school grades. Like the SAT I tests, the only thing that the SAT subject tests do even marginally well at is predicting 1st year grades. The fall apart. The only exception is the SAT Writing test, which used to be a stand-alone subject test and is now part of the required SATI battery.
Submitted by: Educational Policy Wonk
8. I would suggest that parts of the UC system have become subsidized farms that look more like exotic zoos than enterprises with reasonable economic and cultural goals. Why Latin American and Iberian Studies cannot be subsumed under Spanish, or Medieval Studies under History, would perhaps be an interesting thesis for those in the departments of Philosophy. Or perhaps we could start a new department: Canon Studies. A proprietary pen for every species corresponds to significant inefficiencies. Undergraduates with a disposition to the humanities primarily need to understand methodology in broad field areas, not atomistic content.
Submitted by: Claben Marx
9. I think it is shameful that UC's workers are so underpaid that many have to rely on state assistance. Workers are not asking to be paid more than other workers in comparable jobs at other hospitals, they are asking for market wages. UC workers need equal pay for equal work. Get real UC!
Submitted by: Judy A McKeever
10. The UC Board of Admissions and Relations with Schools (BOARS) has proposed ending the requirement that students take the SAT Subject tests. That's a bad idea. The Subject tests are often the best yardstick that admissions’ evaluators have to predict how students will fare once they get to college. Rather than eliminate Subject tests, UC should work with high schools to make sure that qualified students understand the need, and have the chance, to take those tests.
Submitted by: Patrick Mattimore
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