Discuss "Healing the gay/black divide"

To those who complain about gays raising hell ....you would DO the same if your rights were taken away. I don't like people making scapegoats out of other people but look at the history of civil rights movement... ALL whites were made scapegoats then...it's just human nature to throw accusations around. I am gay and I was born that way. If I was given the choice between being a hetrosexual or a homosexual I would choose hetrosexual life because it's easier and more accepted by society. . The Bible thumpers keep on ranting on how it is a choice...you can NOT prove that nor can you prove that the Bible is more than just fairy tales.

CANative @ 6:37 PM PST, Nov 18, 2008

My son and daughter are the new generation of young black adults. They are much more open and accepting of differences in lifestyles. They talked to me about Prop.8 They made me see that love is love and I should leave judgements up to God. I ended up voting NO on Prop. 8. NOW, I wish that I had of voted YES on 8! The backlash of hateful name calling, finger-pointing, and threats to blacks and others who voted Yes on 8 has really been an ugly eye-opener.

Andrea @ 6:35 PM PST, Nov 18, 2008

God created Adam and Eve, NOT Adam and Steve. It's as simple as that.

Palo @ 6:30 PM PST, Nov 18, 2008

There needs to be clarification on the definition of a minority in terms of civil rights. If Prop 8 had not passed, would those who supported it then be deemed a minority entitled to "equal protection" of their point of view under the law? I don't think "gay" should qualify as a minority because there is no way to effectively discriminate against gays on an institutional level. If Black people had only had to not disclose their blackness in order to have equal access to jobs, education and housing, then there would not have been a civil rights movement in this country.

marcus @ 6:17 PM PST, Nov 18, 2008

Vitrol against the Black Community? The only thing I've seen in the media are protest in front of Mormon Churches. As far as I know, there hasn't been protest in front of conservative black churches.

JohnNSac @ 5:56 PM PST, Nov 18, 2008

Don't impose your beliefs onto anyone because you disagree. Gay Marriage does not affect in any way the institution of marriage, all you people going out and getting divorced, cheating on your wives or husbands, dead beat dads, and any other issue that shows a lack of morality destroy the institution of marriage...figure that out before you worry about a partnership that has lasted 20 years, when most of the marriages I hear about in California between heterosexuals last barely 5.

MJ @ 5:53 PM PST, Nov 18, 2008

It's about being a citizen of the country and having the ability to progress in life with the same rights that any other citizen in the country is afforded regardless of race, sexual orientation, or religious belief. If you don't like Gay Marriage, then don't marry a Gay person.

MJ @ 5:52 PM PST, Nov 18, 2008

It confuses me that people are so blinded by ignorance that they think that marriage has always been some sort of defined institution. You get a license, you change your tax information and file jointly, you become a business and if you choose to separate and end that partnership you must file paperwork and process this legally. It is a legal business transaction. What your congregation chooses to recognize is your own choice, but what the government recognizes has nothing to do with any individual other than the individuals it effects in the long run.

MJ @ 5:51 PM PST, Nov 18, 2008

RE: "...also a deep grief over the disintegration of the nuclear black family and fear that gay marriage will further erode it..." Right, so all of a sudden same-sex marriage has burst on the scene and is instantly to blame for all the ills within the Black community. And what about 10 years ago? 20? Which group was the scapegoat then?

More Loose change @ 5:49 PM PST, Nov 18, 2008

We must come to the conclusion that there is not one particular group to blame, Blacks, Hispanics, Asians, etc, that for most, this was an issue regarding lack of understanding and an unwillingness to change. Certain blacks voted for prop 8 not because of hatred towards the gays, but because of a belief in their religion, it goes for Hispanics. I am a black woman and I voted against prop 8, because I don't feel as though I have the right to tell anyone that they don't have the right to have the same protection under the law that I do once I choose to settle down and be with one person for the rest of my life.

MJ @ 5:47 PM PST, Nov 18, 2008

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