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Who has the right to say someone could possible have pedophilic tendencies unless they've intensively studied this subjuct before? A psychologist.
Jessica @ 9:02 AM PST, Nov 18, 2008
In September, the American Psychological Association voted to prohibit its members from participating in interrogations or acting in an advisory capacity at Guantánamo Bay and elsewhere after revelations that some psychologists have been involved in so-called intensive interrogation sessions. I hope the APA takes a similar position on psychologists' ferreting out gay candidates for the priesthood. p.s. Larry: pedophiles are child molesters.
Carol Anne @ 5:10 AM PST, Nov 18, 2008
Who or what is the Vatican planning to use as a standard for heterosexuality? They can't use themselves--there's scarcely a member of the College of Cardinals who doesn't make Elton John look like John Wayne.
MollyNYC @ 11:19 PM PST, Nov 17, 2008
Oh, this is going to be rich. Let's see--according to the Vatican, psychologists will magically ascertain who's gay and who's straight, like Harry Potter's sorting hat. And any gay seminary applicants are soooo going to be found out, because there's just no way a man who's spent his life in the closet would know how to pass as straight. What are they going to do, see how the applicants cross their legs? Reject everyone who picks the salad instead of the steak at the interview lunch? Seriously folks, this is the state of the art for deciding who's gay vs straight.
MollyNYC @ 11:13 PM PST, Nov 17, 2008
The problem in the priesthood is tolerance -- indeed active enlistment -- of the sexually immature. BOYS are sent off to seminary in highly Catholic countries like Poland and the Philippines before they are old enough to understand and accept a life of celibacy. This problem goes back centuries. A rational Church, an honest Church, would regularly counsel and advice priests and brothers about this, every several years. But the Vatican won't do that because to do so would so drain the ranks of priests -- so many would come to realize that they couldn't and shouldn't hack it -- that the Church would cease to function.
BobN @ 10:53 PM PST, Nov 17, 2008
I'm surprised by the number of posters who assert percentages in discussing the abuse scandal. We don't know the percentages because the Church won't share the statistics. Too "scandalous", I guess.
BobN @ 10:53 PM PST, Nov 17, 2008
LAT got this right from the people who is paying good money to manipulate the truth, from all angles be it scientific, moral, social, psychologic, philosophical, religion and spirituality.
Welll paid of course @ 10:12 PM PST, Nov 17, 2008
Show me where the Church has said...A crime that calls to heaven for vengeance, related to this topic... I feel like crying for so much ignorance on the history of the Church, Scientific issues, Psychological issues, social issues. Stop this soap opera drama. Be a little bit more analitical. Stop repeating what the ignorant, but shrewd people has said every where throughout the ages, taking advantage of the ones who are even more ignorants.
Stop the drama, what an ignorant can say @ 10:04 PM PST, Nov 17, 2008
It's not a matter of questioning the religion -- it's a matter of asking whether psychologists can ethically participate in what is, by the standards of the discipline, unethical behavior.
M Groesbeck @ 9:29 PM PST, Nov 17, 2008
"Never mind that large numbers of gay priests - estimates range from 25% to 50% - already serve the faithful, with most adhering to their vow of celibacy." Any factual basis for these estimates? You state: "But, as Pope Benedict XVI conceded during his visit to the United States this year, homosexuality isn't the same as pedophilia.That statement was a rebuke to conservative Catholics, and others, who have attempted to equate the two." Nonsense! That statement was pointing out the obvious, that the vast majority of incidents of alleged abuse by priests involved homosexuality and NOT paedophilia.
Hughie McLoughlin @ 9:19 PM PST, Nov 17, 2008
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