Discuss the second installment of the Dust-Up on Prop. 1A
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Thinks about thre total costs of this massive undertaking before anyone gets excited about it. The idea is a grand one but also who travels to San Francisco as opposed to the San Joaquin Valley cities? The route and its atrractiveness to riders is an important point. The amortization of this bond item will be in a century, not in decades.
Normbc9 @ 10:12 AM PDT, Oct 22, 2008
At a time when California is at a deficit, and the Sacramento legislature wants to keep spending until we're bankrupt, I say vote no. It's too expensive. I also think we should vote the legislature in Sacramento out of office. If it wasn't for Arnold putting his foot down and vetoing bills, we'd already be bankrupt under Gray Davis.
julie @ 9:48 AM PDT, Oct 22, 2008
This position of Moore reminds of those who attacked the building of the Golden Gate Bridge--it wouldn't benefit Marin County and a useless expenditure but look at what the Golden Bridge stands for and the same for the Bay Bridge and the benefits that have resulted. Someone needs to remind Moore when the Golden Gate was built: during the Great Depression. Let's journey to the 21st Century.
George @ 9:06 AM PDT, Oct 22, 2008
If you want a nice rebuttal of most of Reason's arguments and flat out lies, take a look at this post: http://cahsr.blogspot.com/2008/10/why-is-adrian-moore-lying-in-la-times.html If you don't want to read the whole rebuttal, stop and think about the last sentence in the 2nd paragraph for a second. Yes, he is directly comparing a 5-minute run to the grocery store with a weekend trip across the state. Instead of any relevant statistic, like the number of intra-CA plane flights, he finds the largest (and most irrelevant) statistic possible to argue.
Rufus @ 1:56 AM PDT, Oct 22, 2008
Living in Spain where a massive investment has been made the results have been spectacular. 2 recentlty completed routes Madrid - Barcelona & Madrid - Malaga have seen a switch of some 10-15 traffic. Better comfort, no delays etc. It is a no brainer the difficult points are technology and costs.
desmond cleary @ 12:49 AM PDT, Oct 22, 2008
Nothing like some wildly fearful conservatives trying to "derail" a real future for this state. We will suffocate without this, as imperfect as it may be. We must get the ball rolling.
Jay @ 12:18 AM PDT, Oct 22, 2008
Times are different than when we built the freeway system, and a new and more enlightened generation has experienced the failure of relying on the automobile. Taking a plane to SF takes a lot of time, and can be very stressful. The bullet train is long overdue.
dino @ 12:05 AM PDT, Oct 22, 2008
Adrian Moore is lying to you. That's not hyperbole. Most of his claims here are outright falsehoods that are easily disproved with a quick Google Search. Two brief examples: 1. Nowhere around the world is HSR subsidized - in France the TGV is so profitable it subsidizes other slower rail lines. 2. HSR has significantly eaten into air travel in Spain, France, over the English Channel, and in Taiwan. How can we trust anything he says when his post is so full of obvious lies? More information on Adrian Moore's lies can be found at the California High Speed Rail Blog, cahsr.blogspot.com.
Robert Cruickshank @ 11:11 PM PDT, Oct 21, 2008