Discuss the third installment of the Dust-Up on the U.S. auto industry


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  • Where was all the scrutiny when the white collar bankers were getting their handout from tax dollars? As ever a double standard is in play - working people get screwed and the white collar criminals on wall street get a free ride at taxpayer expense.

    John @ 11:29 AM PST, Dec 5, 2008

  • God forbid the American working man should make a decent living.

    Hil @ 9:06 AM PST, Dec 5, 2008

  • Union reps have done a great job negotiating favorable contracts for their membership, but they have created a monster in terms of legacy costs. Foreign carmakers build cars HERE and export them OVERSEAS, cars CAN be built in the USA at a profit with a reasonable cost structure. We dont need more unions we need fewer unions. No matter what wages and benefits unions negotiate for themselves, market forces and capitalism will ultimately determine whether the domestic auto (or any other industry) makes a profit and survives. The Big 3 have been living on borrowed time for years.

    Jay J. @ 7:41 PM PST, Dec 4, 2008

  • Laura, your solution is a sad joke. They are free to form a union now, they don't need to be beaten and intimidated to join. They simply choose not to because they see what happened to Michigan. It's sad that the Dems had a secret ballot to replace Dingel with Waxman, but they don't extend the same courtesy to their constituents. Unions suck. They steal money from consumers and taxpayers, and everyone but union members know it.

    Scott P @ 7:23 PM PST, Dec 4, 2008

  • No. Bad management and lousy products are killing the big 3. Producer cost differential simply doesn't explain Big 3's long tolerance for shoddy design, engineering and quality control. Foreing companies build great cars at all price points with U.S. labor.

    K. Collins @ 5:03 PM PST, Dec 4, 2008

  • If Congress would just pass the Employee Free Choice Act, workers at Toyota and Honda would have the freedom to form a union and level the playing field for the Big Three. It's not labor that's killing Detroit - it's unfair labor laws that make union-busting so profitable for other car companies.

    Laura @ 2:27 PM PST, Dec 4, 2008

  • Any thought that the big 3 can be viable going forward is sheer fantasy unless the labor costs are brought in line with their competitors. Because those controlling congress and soon the presidency are in their positions largely because of organized labor, any thought that labor costs will be adjusted is also sheer fantasy. This is just one more example of political expediency instead of what makes sense. I expect to see alot of these in the coming regime. The bailout should be called what it is: a big labor "thank you" bailout.

    baitboat @ 2:19 PM PST, Dec 4, 2008

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