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Immigration '09
How should the next president and Congress handle immigration? Discuss the final round of this week's Dust-Up.
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1.
In the history of the US - immigration has always been the lynchpin of this country. The chinese, japanese, irish, scots, polish, jews etc were here before these mexicans - and yes a lot of these early migrants were initially illegal. Written History proves that when they first came - they encountered resistance too. The irish "bred like bunnies", the chinese was cheap labor etc. - basically the same reasons why to deport all illegals now are the same ones used before. The US became great due in part to all of those migrants before, the US is still great and the US will remain so due in part to all these new people.
2. I tried to comment on the ITIN scam but it was too long. Basically, illegals make up a social then solicit an ITIN from HR Block or Jackson Hewitt. These companies then file the illegal's taxes but with the ITIN instead of the social. Worse, ITINs can be acquired for any of the illegals dependent whether living illegally here or in Mexico. An investigative report into this would be most fascinating.
3. Amnesty begets more illegal immigration which calls for more amnesties, hidden in little bills but passed nevertheless, adding more burdens to the taxpayers in this country. Immigration reform is nothing short of suicide for the United States as we've always known it and an end to the American culture. Of course, any American who dares speak the truth is labeled racist, xenophobe, lazy, etc. The propaganda by open border movements is doing its job. Open border advocates want to hold open the doors until the foundation of the house can no longer hold the weight.
4. If we seal the border and deport every illegal alien we can catch, the latino population surge will slow down considerable, and the Mexiacans know that. The one additional propblem is thrie tendency to have 10 kids per family. They appear to be to premative to understand family planning. Therefore we (taxpayers pay/suffer).
5. Professor Jimenez, You say, "Those who favor enforcement-only (or enforcement first) will claim victory and tell us that enforcement works, ignoring the fact that labor markets have a mind of their own." I would just like to point out that since strict enforcement measures hace been implemented in Oklahoma and Arizona, illegal immigrants have been leaving those states in droves. Sometimes just a discussion of a possible , stricter bill, is enough to make illegal immigrants take flight.
6. WE need to enforce the law, plain and simple for the protection of America and the American way!
7. What can be done to make legislators pay attention to what the majority of their constituents demand: to enforce existing immigration law? Both Boxer and Feinstein have shamefully refused to see to it that the law is enforced. They have perversely ignored all demands by constituents to vote in favor of legislation that would make it harder for illegal aliens to come to the US. They've turned their backs on us citizens. At the end of the day, all illegals and their anchor babies must return to their country of origin and get in line. Enforce our laws, NOW!
8. Irregardless of whether we should get tough concerning illegal immigration, & I myself have mixed feelings on the issue, the facts are the govt will not, & no matter how much it pretends to, since too many people, groups, & institutions, and including the federal govt itself, are making a fortune from illegal immigration. To give just a few examples. The Dem Party wants their votes. Big business (largely Republican), and which wants access to low cost undocumented alien slave labor, makes large political contributions. And the federal govt collects a fortune in social security contributions from undocumented aliens who give false names.
9. simply fine employers who use them/remove political restrictions on the border patrol/deny health and education , welfare etc./deny congress ability to build fences as those $ can be used internally to enforce grrent law.
10. Jimenez objects to the word "amnesty." I bet he'll say it isn't amnesty because we'll let people stay only if they pay "stiff fines, such as $5,000" and "go to the end of the line for citizenship." But that would amount to selling lifetime residence in the U.S. for $5,000, when it's surely worth hundreds of thousands of dollars! And illegal aliens don't care about citizenship; all they crave is legal presence, so waiting for citizenship is no penalty. The only line that's relevant is the back of the line at the U.S. consulate in their native countries after they leave or are deported.
Submitted by: John
2. I tried to comment on the ITIN scam but it was too long. Basically, illegals make up a social then solicit an ITIN from HR Block or Jackson Hewitt. These companies then file the illegal's taxes but with the ITIN instead of the social. Worse, ITINs can be acquired for any of the illegals dependent whether living illegally here or in Mexico. An investigative report into this would be most fascinating.
Submitted by: the markster
3. Amnesty begets more illegal immigration which calls for more amnesties, hidden in little bills but passed nevertheless, adding more burdens to the taxpayers in this country. Immigration reform is nothing short of suicide for the United States as we've always known it and an end to the American culture. Of course, any American who dares speak the truth is labeled racist, xenophobe, lazy, etc. The propaganda by open border movements is doing its job. Open border advocates want to hold open the doors until the foundation of the house can no longer hold the weight.
Submitted by: TrishG
4. If we seal the border and deport every illegal alien we can catch, the latino population surge will slow down considerable, and the Mexiacans know that. The one additional propblem is thrie tendency to have 10 kids per family. They appear to be to premative to understand family planning. Therefore we (taxpayers pay/suffer).
Submitted by: Robert
5. Professor Jimenez, You say, "Those who favor enforcement-only (or enforcement first) will claim victory and tell us that enforcement works, ignoring the fact that labor markets have a mind of their own." I would just like to point out that since strict enforcement measures hace been implemented in Oklahoma and Arizona, illegal immigrants have been leaving those states in droves. Sometimes just a discussion of a possible , stricter bill, is enough to make illegal immigrants take flight.
Submitted by: Ralph Kelly
6. WE need to enforce the law, plain and simple for the protection of America and the American way!
Submitted by: S barnes
7. What can be done to make legislators pay attention to what the majority of their constituents demand: to enforce existing immigration law? Both Boxer and Feinstein have shamefully refused to see to it that the law is enforced. They have perversely ignored all demands by constituents to vote in favor of legislation that would make it harder for illegal aliens to come to the US. They've turned their backs on us citizens. At the end of the day, all illegals and their anchor babies must return to their country of origin and get in line. Enforce our laws, NOW!
Submitted by: No More BS
8. Irregardless of whether we should get tough concerning illegal immigration, & I myself have mixed feelings on the issue, the facts are the govt will not, & no matter how much it pretends to, since too many people, groups, & institutions, and including the federal govt itself, are making a fortune from illegal immigration. To give just a few examples. The Dem Party wants their votes. Big business (largely Republican), and which wants access to low cost undocumented alien slave labor, makes large political contributions. And the federal govt collects a fortune in social security contributions from undocumented aliens who give false names.
Submitted by: Mark Winshel
9. simply fine employers who use them/remove political restrictions on the border patrol/deny health and education , welfare etc./deny congress ability to build fences as those $ can be used internally to enforce grrent law.
Submitted by: warren peterson
10. Jimenez objects to the word "amnesty." I bet he'll say it isn't amnesty because we'll let people stay only if they pay "stiff fines, such as $5,000" and "go to the end of the line for citizenship." But that would amount to selling lifetime residence in the U.S. for $5,000, when it's surely worth hundreds of thousands of dollars! And illegal aliens don't care about citizenship; all they crave is legal presence, so waiting for citizenship is no penalty. The only line that's relevant is the back of the line at the U.S. consulate in their native countries after they leave or are deported.
Submitted by: Blake
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