Obama's delusional foreign policy


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  • Thank you for a good laugh! I am glad to be part of the non thinking people.

    Christophe Perron @ 5:06 AM PDT, May 29, 2008

  • Alas all those that claim that McCain will keep us safe is delusional. Will you bear arms and fight in the trenches in Iran, while your leaders hold hands with the Saudis? You, just like all the talking heads for the GOP will hide behind your pens and sprew your rhetoric within the walls of high rise studios. All the while the struggling Americans, the poor, the disenfranchised will be on those front lines fighting those wars that all you talking heads keep advocating. Furthermore; from what I have seen I seems that all your conservative colleagues are appeasing your saber rattling leader. Jesse "The Mad Texan"

    Jesse "The Mad Texan" @ 4:09 PM PDT, May 28, 2008

  • All of which takes us back to the original premise, Mr. Contreras: Negotiation is not appeasement. Look them up in the dictionary. They're on different pages. Appeasement is not always bad. It's had a poor reputation since Neville Chamberlain because he was duped by Hitler. Since then, appeasement has been synonymous with foolishness. (But these two words are also on different pages.) It is possible to appease without being duped. We could give Mr. Contreras a soother soaked in honey and that would appease him. We wouldn't expect him to give up his indignant rhetoric permanently. But it might buy us enough time to find him another job.

    LarryKeiler @ 6:13 AM PDT, May 28, 2008

  • If you think our military and intelligence capability were weakened under Bill Clinton, watch out for what socialist Obama might do.

    Mike Mancuso, San Jose @ 9:33 PM PDT, May 27, 2008

  • I'm offended that Mr. Contreras calls Mr. Obama delusional. Mr. Obama is politically left of him and right of me. He has a reasoned position whether or not Mr. Contreras likes it. I believe that Mr. Bush and company are criminals, but he too has a reasoned position. I don't call him delusional; I think he broke and continues to break the laws of man and God. I've met delusional people. They are not equipped to hold public office, and it's very obvious.

    W. Yoder @ 6:42 PM PDT, May 27, 2008

  • I agree with the author. Obama has said he is for "change". What change? For taking the troopsout. es, Iraq was a mistake, and Bush lied. So did others, of both parties. I was alive and well when Reagan took office. I don't recall ever seeing (as claimed-early post) that Kissinger negotiated on behalf of Reagan for the hostages to be released in Iran. As for negotiating, go back to 1939. (British) Prime Minsiter Neville Chamberlain, after "negotiating" with Hitler, and giving him the Sudenlandt , proclaimed, in his most (in)famous speech, "I HAVE ACHIEVED PEACE IN OUR TIMES". Anyone recall what followed? WW2

    joel @ 5:41 PM PDT, May 27, 2008

  • The author is misrepresenting Obama's position because he can't debate him on the actual facts. This is called a "straw man argument". From Wikipedia: A straw man argument is an informal fallacy based on misrepresentation of an opponent's position. To "set up a straw man argument" is to describe a position that superficially resembles an opponent's actual view but is easier to refute, then attribute that position to the opponent. A straw man argument [may succeed in persuading people] but it carries little or no real evidential weight, because the opponent's actual argument has not been refuted. Sound familiar?

    Mike in Sonoma @ 4:56 PM PDT, May 27, 2008

  • For those who (rhetorically) ask why negotiations are dangerous, consider this: how does a kid that gets picked on deal with a bully? By asking him to stop? That makes you look weak. By reasoning with him in person? Only if you want to get beat up again. No, you first ignore it and then if it doesn't stop, you send friends in to ask him to lay off. Guess what, it's the same for terrorism. You ignore them so you don't legitimize their actions. If that doesn't work, you send in other folks, not yourself, to do some talking. The difference in scenarios is in international relations, you're allowed to go to war; in high school you're not.

    Jen @ 4:56 PM PDT, May 27, 2008

  • You've taken a lot of random hearsay and maliciously spun it into a web of....ironclad innuendo. And you're supposed to be a journalist?

    Victor Trumper @ 4:52 PM PDT, May 27, 2008

  • Only John McCain and his mentor Bush wants preconditions before engaging with the enemy. This is like telling your enemy that you must surrender before I will even talk to you. What arrogance. The true reason is that they need someone to blame for their troubles in Iraq. Blame, blame, blame, blame blame, Iran. Even the Israelis are not buying that appeasement crap. According to multiple news sources, the Israeli government is engaging in peace talks with Hamas and sending out feelers for discussion with Syria.

    Ransome @ 3:42 PM PDT, May 27, 2008

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