Whose liberty?


How should the feds balance individual freedom with the government's interests? Discuss round three of this week's Dust-Up.

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  • I'm really getting tired of those people to lazy to do their own research and parrot those who don't differentiate between Conservatives and Neo-cons. I am a libertarian and a registered Libertarian (beliefs as opposed to party affiliation) and by definition I am conservative. Originally being a Conservative meant supporting individual freedoms and a governmental non-obtrusive policy: stay out of my private life and just focus on where you must such as national security (not the Neocon definition of security). I'll stand right next to you and rail against the Neocons, those fools have tarnished the concepts of concervatism.

    Rick @ 6:09 PM PST, Mar 6, 2008

  • Conservatives in power care nothing about people. Their sole concern is staying in power and protecting the corporate interests who support them. They have duped so many people into voting against their own interests--that is why they don't really want to do anything about abortion, prayer, etc.. They then would have nothing to talk about. And yhe Democrats have let them get by with it again and again.

    Jerry Wickliffe @ 2:11 PM PST, Mar 6, 2008

  • Great, two dimwit apologists arguing that this administration in particular and conservatism in general aren't all that bad, that they just need a little tweaking. We'd be better off listening to Kevin Bacon's character in "Animal House" spouting "All is well, remain calm" as a riot engulfs him.

    Eric @ 11:51 AM PST, Mar 6, 2008

  • Corporations are NOT individuals! Giving corporations the status of individuals destroys the concept of an individual's freedom.

    Jim @ 9:52 AM PST, Mar 6, 2008

  • Back in the early 1970s, Karl Hess, a co founder of National Review and Goldwater campaigner/speech writer remarked that in many areas, conservatives preached fighting big government but in some areas let it become a monster. Today this includes the Patriot Act, wanting authority to read people's mail and email and monitoring people's phone calls without warrants.

    Ken Mitchell @ 3:23 AM PST, Mar 6, 2008

  • Newt Gingrich a conservative? No, he's an egotist and an opportunist. He was better at gaining power than exercising and retaining it.

    astockton @ 7:34 PM PST, Mar 5, 2008

  • Individuals should have no freedom. We should all have a chip implanted in our bodies at birth and our every presence and when possible in the future thought tracked and recorded for public review by the minute after that. The concept of privacy is an 18th century idiocy.

    malrox @ 7:11 PM PST, Mar 5, 2008

  • He calls it rediscovering our libertarian side, but the conservatives are as far from being libertarians as the liberals are from being Jeffersonian liberals. The fear mongering by the right is right out of the book of the National Socialists.

    David U @ 6:34 PM PST, Mar 5, 2008

  • The current administration is far more concerned about the freedom of regulations for their big industry supporters. This administration has adopted a "hands off" approach to big industry including enforcing laws related to hiring of illegal aliens. Meanwhile, applying more and more limits to individual freedoms in the right to assembly, freedom of speech, and freedom to travel under the umbrella of terrorism protectionism. Countires like Canada and Australia have more actual freedoms then we do except for the right to buy a machine gun.

    Rick burke @ 5:53 PM PST, Mar 5, 2008

  • I think the new owner of the LA Times should do away with this ridiculous horse manure. Having two nearly identical conversatalking heads rambling on about things which don't remotely affect them is meaningless. When someone tries to take away one of their precious personal privileges, and we hear them squeal like the pigs they are, then it will be worth printing. And snickering at. If you don't like the effects, don't promote the cause.

    Lamb Cannon @ 3:34 PM PST, Mar 5, 2008

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