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A Universal Debate

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In Los Angeles, one of the galaxy’s true hubs of confusion and uncertainty, this latest puzzle ranks as a real blockbuster: Is there--or was there--life on Mars? And will scientists find the answers in a hunk of rock that whizzed down from the sky 13,000 years ago in . . . uh, Antarctica?

Tourist Sebastian Puts, 11, of Canada, was one of untold thousands pondering those questions Wednesday, even while scientists were reporting possible evidence of cellular life in the ancient meteorite. Sebastian stood outside the observatory at Griffith Park, pointing a coin-operated telescope in the general vicinity of Madonna’s house.

His own conclusion: Why not?

“I think it’s possible to have creatures on different planets,” the seventh-grader theorized, “because . . . there’s been sightings of UFOs, and they can’t go by themselves. They have to have someone in there to drive them or something.”

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Why not, indeed? If nothing else, the announcements were more than enough to fire the intellectual passion of people young and old alike.

To some, the news was compelling evidence that humanity is not alone in the cosmos, a finding that would answer one of mankind’s most profound mysteries.

To others, the purported contents of the 4-pound meteorite--believed to have been blasted off the Martian surface by a crashing asteroid--smacked of pseudo-research, bad science fiction.

“It’s ridiculous,” said author Ray Bradbury, whose “Martian Chronicles” painted a far more vibrant picture of Martian life. “They don’t have any proof. They’re not even sure [the rock] came from Mars.”

He doesn’t believe it for a minute.

“It’s stupid,” he said.

Dwayne Seeley, 26, of Simi Valley sees no reason to be left in the cosmic dark. The U.S. government “could send a manned spacecraft to Mars” to find out, he said. “It’s just a “matter of money and politics.”

Whoa with the spending, reacted Brent Peskin, 31, owner of Brent’s Delicatessen in Northridge. “There’s value to it, but I think we would be better off using of our money for problems here on Earth.”

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One of Peskin’s customers, Marty Kavinoky of Woodland Hills, dismissed the whole subject with the wisdom that pastrami sandwiches generate: “There couldn’t have been intelligent life on Mars, there was no Jewish deli.”

Meanwhile, over in Burbank, Jay Leno quipped in his “Tonight Show” monologue, “Personally I’m a bit of a skeptic. . . . Until I see photos in the National Enquirer or the Star, count me out.”

Yet the skeptics seemed surprisingly few.

The Rev. Gregory Coiro, spokesman for the Roman Catholic Archdiocese of Los Angeles, said he was not surprised by the apparent discovery, adding that “finding life on another planet or solar system would not really impact on anything in Catholic theology because all of our theology has to do with the relationship between God and human beings.”

If extraterrestrial life exists, Coiro said, the real question is whether other intelligent life forms would have the need for a Redeemer, or would they have somehow maintained an original innocence? Unfortunately, he added, “dealing with bacteria doesn’t quite put you into that ballpark.”

No argument from some Protestants, unless you want to trace humanity’s family tree back to the microscopic Martian amoebas.

“It’s very possible that they found a record of previous life on Mars,” said Tom Lueck, spokesman for The Master’s College in Newhall. The Bible says nothing “about creating life on another planet--but just because there’s no record doesn’t mean it can’t be possible,” he said.

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“But whether it had anything to do with where humans originated is a different story. According to the Bible, humans originated from the beginning of time on Earth when [God] created us.”

Skeptics were difficult to find even at the Skeptics Society, an Altadena-based organization devoted to putting a hard spotlight on scientific controversies.

“Super, exciting, fabulous” is how Pat Linse, art director of Skeptic magazine, described the revelations she saw during a televised news conference. “I hope it’s true. I wouldn’t mind seeing larger life, too, if it’s not like ‘Independence Day.’ ”

Skeptics President Michael Shermer said life might be part of a naturally occurring process. If it can spring up on Earth and on Mars right next door, where else might it be?

“There’s 100 billion stars in our galaxy, and roughly 100 billion galaxies in the known universe,” he said. “There’s just got to be one hell of a lot of life forms out there.”

That may be news to some, but not to editors at Weekly World News.

“We do feel vindicated,” said Sal Ivone, managing editor of the tabloid, which is about to publish--by overwhelming demand, he said--what he claimed are actual photographs of a more highly advanced Martian life form. While refusing to describe the exact nature of that life form, Ivone promised it will be “scary,” but not like Elvis.

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“We’re way out in front on this story,” he said. “We’ve been covering this since 1979, and we always joke that [the question is not whether] there’s life on Mars, but is there night life on Mars?”

What with the barrage of extraterrestrial news in the tabloids, on TV and in the movies, many people seemed to react to NASA’s news with little astonishment.

Out on the “Extraterrestrial Highway,” Nevada 375 through Rachel, Nev., tourists from Los Angeles to Maine gather to stare into starry black skies for signs of life elsewhere, said Paula Clayton, manager of a bar and restaurant known as the Little A’Le’Inn (“Little Alien”).

She has seen a number of UFOs, Clayton said, including one that landed on a dry lake bed flashing what looked like a strobe light.

“That’s been the assumption around here for some time--that there’s life on Mars.”

“For us to think we’re the only possible intelligence in the whole universe is the biggest ego trip imaginable,” said film director Robert Wise (“The Day the Earth Stood Still”), another UFO believer who just returned from a UFO conference in Palm Springs.

“I never have seen one myself, unfortunately, but I’ve heard people speak about their own experiences,” Wise said.

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Bill Johnson, 51, a charter bus driver who passed his time Wednesday waiting for a South Korean tour group at Griffith Park, was loath to consider the alternative. What if it’s just us out there, all alone? “If this is the best it gets, we’re in deep doo-doo.”

The idea that the life forms in question are one-celled, bacteria-like organisms that died perhaps 3 billion or 4 billion years ago struck some people as disappointing, almost sad.

“They’ve been gone so long,” mused Bessie Smith, a 47-year-old herbalist at Capitol Drugs, a holistic pharmacy in West Hollywood.

With something that sounded like hope, she added: “Maybe they’ve metamorphosized into another dimension and they’re watching us and laughing. It makes me feel like I’m behind. I’ve really got to work on my growth because the Martians have been gone for millions of years.”

Dr. Louis Friedman, executive director of the Pasadena-based Planetary Society, one of the nation’s largest groups devoted to study of the heavens, said he has given countless interviews over the years, telling inquirers there was not a shred of evidence of extraterrestrial life.

Now that has changed.

“Today we have a shred of evidence,” Friedman said. “For the first time, we have something we can scientifically look at. That is an enormous change.”

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There are still skeptics, he said, but that is good.

“Somebody said, ‘What are we going to do about all these doubters?’ ” Friedman said. “I said, ‘Encourage them. We need to be skeptical about extraordinary results. And you need to be open-minded.’

“Science is not about giving answers. Science is about asking questions. Everybody today is asking questions. That’s great.”

Times staff writers Abigail Goldman and Andrew Blankstein contributed to this story.

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