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Some Advertisers Shying Away From Trash TV Programs

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Times Staff Writer

Although a Geraldo Rivera special on Satanism or a “reality” program that re-enacts a brutal murder may be OK for Raid bug spray, the people behind Campbell’s Soup, Apple Computers and Kellogg’s Frosted Flakes don’t hold the same opinion.

Those family items are among a long list of products that advertisers don’t want associated with so-called “trash TV” or “tabloid TV”--the new breed of sensationalistic programs that include “America’s Most Wanted,” “A Current Affair,” some installments of “Oprah” or “Donahue,” and just about anything with the name “Geraldo” in the credits. Some advertisers with a wholesome image to maintain are studiously avoiding this newest TV plague.

For the record:

12:00 a.m. Feb. 11, 1989 For the Record
Los Angeles Times Saturday February 11, 1989 Home Edition Calendar Part 5 Page 11 Column 4 Entertainment Desk 1 inches; 29 words Type of Material: Correction
In a story on trash TV in Thursday’s Calendar, the titles of KTTV station executives Greg Nathanson and Bill McGowan were inadvertently reversed. Nathanson is general manager; McGowan is station manager.

But even though these advertisers are trashing trash TV, local TV stations say advertiser backlash will not kill off tabloid TV.

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Some station managers charge that advertisers who just say no to trash TV--a hot topic at last week’s National Assn. of Television Producers and Executives convention in Houston--are blatantly self-serving.

“I believe what we hear and see (about advertisers rejecting tabloid TV) is indicative of a completely ulterior motive,” asserted Steven Gigliotti, director of sales for KCBS-TV, which airs “Inside Edition” and “Geraldo.” “It’s a negotiating ploy to help enhance their position in the market.”

Gigliotti believes that, although “about 3%” of advertisers will not buy time on trash TV, most who adopt a holier-than-tabloid attitude are merely jockeying for a better price.

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“There’s an (advertising) agency in town . . . that has indicated that it doesn’t want to put its clients on ‘Geraldo,’ ” Gigliotti said. “The fact is, ‘Geraldo’ is the show that we charge the most for. They’re hoping that our account executive will deal a very desirable rate to get them to buy the show.

“I’m sure when I leave, and the ABC (marketing executive) walks in, they say the same thing about Oprah Winfrey’s show. It’s just a ploy to take away our trump card.”

Greg Nathanson and Bill McGowan, station manager and general manager, respectively, of Fox-owned station KTTV, home of “America’s Most Wanted,” “A Current Affair” and “The Reporters,” agreed. “They (advertisers) will try any trick they can,” said McGowan. Nathanson added that networks that don’t feature one of the highly rated tabloid shows have a vested interest in tarnishing the image of their competitors.

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The issue of advertiser rejection surfaced at the programmers’ convention, the annual site where television syndicators market their wares. The reason: This year’s new shows for syndication include ‘Crime Diaries,” “Crimestoppers 800,” “The Investigators” and “Crimewatch” (which will appear on KCOP-Channel 13 if sold to enough other stations nationwide to get clearance) and the aptly titled “Tabloid” from Paramount Television.

Companies refusing to buy time on most such programs include General Foods USA, McDonald’s and Campbell’s Soup Co., a client of BBDO/New York, which rejects tabloid TV for all of its clients. Others, including Kellogg’s, are unlikely to advertise on shows dealing with the titillating topics currently in vogue on “Geraldo.”

At the convention, some syndicators reportedly expressed fears that there won’t be enough advertiser support to get the new tabloid shows on the air.

“It’s really going to be a problem,” said Larry Blasius, vice president and associate director of network programming for BBDO/New York. “I would think you couldn’t put 13 of those shows on and expect them all to be gobbled up by advertising.”

But plenty of advertisers are still gobbling, said Michael Eigner, vice president and station manager of KTLA-TV Channel 5, which telecasts Rivera’s occasional specials. “If anything, there’s a premium on those shows,” Eigner said. “There are certain clients that are prone to stay away, but there are others that will jump to them, because they don’t mind the controversy and like the high ratings.”

The Wisconsin-based S. C. Johnson Co., for example, has no problem with tabloid TV, believing stations, not advertisers, should decide what is in good taste. Gus Priemer, an advertising consultant for the company, said S. C. Johnson purchased time on the recent NBC Rivera special on Satanism.

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Among Johnson’s heavily advertised products are Glade air freshener and Raid and Off insect sprays--and Priemer said killing bugs doesn’t require the company to maintain a family image.

Channel 5’s Eigner acknowledges that certain tabloid shows present a public relations problem. “I think you have to get the advertisers to view a show, “ he said. “Sometimes it’s good to get the hosts of the shows in contact with the advertisers and see if their views change.”

KCOP president and general manager Bill Frank said that the station did not worry about purchasing the new “Crimewatch,” because he expects advertisers will judge the show on its own merits. “It is more of a news show than a pure tabloid show,” he said. While he acknowledged that some advertisers have shied away from “A Current Affair” and “Inside Edition,” he believes they will give the new shows a chance. “I don’t think they (advertisers) judge a show ahead of time unless the title is so outrageous that they might be scared,” Frank said.

The station managers pointed out that advertisers boycotting tabloid television are the same group that avoid any controversial show. “Kellogg’s is advertising primarily to kids,” said KTTV’s Nathanson. “They would have a list (of shows to avoid) that would contain half the shows on television.”

Advertisers such as Kellogg’s that steer clear of sex, violence and Geraldo also may avoid non-exploitative programs dealing with sensitive topics such as politics and religion. Paul Mulcahy, Campbell’s Soup Co. vice president of advertising, said that the biggest negative viewer reaction the company ever got was when the company advertised during a CBS documentary on Central America.

Mulcahy noted that popular taste determines what advertisers consider controversial. Daytime soaps, once considered too steamy for some advertisers, are now routinely accepted; with the advent of Geraldo and Morton Downey Jr., many consider Winfrey and Donahue tame offerings.

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Station managers concede that if the new tabloid shows become even more sensational, it could blight the reputation of existing shows--such as it is. And KCBS’ Gigliotti noted that advertisers could also begin to reject these programs because despite their high rating, tabloid shows tend to draw a downscale audience. Gigliotti said the ideal advertiser’s show is still a program like “60 Minutes,” which gets both high ratings and upscale viewers.

In the meantime, said KTTV’s Nathanson, “I wish all of our inventory was as easy to sell as ‘A Current Affair’ and ‘The Reporters.’ And if they gave me ‘Oprah Winfrey,’ I’d be very happy to have it too.”

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