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How I Made It: Herb Scannell, who brought ‘Dora’ to Nickelodeon, returns to his radio roots at KPCC

LOS ANGELES, CA-FEBRUARY 7, 2019: Herb Scannell, the next CEO and president of Southern California P
Herb Scannell was recently named chief executive and president of Southern California Public Radio, which operates KPCC-FM (89.3).
(Dania Maxwell / Los Angeles Times)

Media industry veteran Herb Scannell, 62, was recently named president and chief executive of Southern California Public Radio, the nonprofit that operates KPCC-FM (89.3) in Pasadena. It also runs KUOR-FM in the Inland Empire, KVLA-FM in Coachella Valley and the LAist website. Previously, he led Viacom Inc.’s Nickelodeon and BBC Worldwide North America. Most recently, he ran Los Angeles digital media company Mitú. He starts Feb. 28.

Rice and beans household

Scannell grew up in the suburbs on New York’s Long Island, the youngest of four. His Boston-bred Irish father and his Puerto Rican mother were both social workers. Her rich culture dominated the household, he said, with rice and beans usually winning out over mashed potatoes, which came from a box.

“It was a very different experience than everybody else on our block,” Scannell said. Every third summer, he and his siblings stayed with extended family in Puerto Rico. As he grew older, Scannell said, he learned to appreciate growing up in a culture different from his peers. “That was a gift,” he said.

‘Pop-culture kid’

Scannell said he grew up saturated with media, including television and radio. “I’m a pop-culture kid,” he said. “I did my homework, but I did it while watching TV.”

Scannell’s radio experience began early. As a kid, he would spend Tuesday nights listening to a pop music radio station count down the top 20 songs of the week. For fun, Scannell would write them each down on a loose-leaf sheet of paper. Scannell attended Boston College, where he worked at the campus radio station, later becoming the general manager.

Counting posters

After he graduated with degrees in history and English, Scannell wasn’t sure what to pursue. He got in touch with a family friend who worked at a country radio station in New York. Scannell was hired as a promotions assistant, and riding around on the subways became part of his routine because he had to count posters of Dolly Parton to make sure the station was getting the ads and space it paid for.

When he was 23, the woman who hired him quit, so Scannell was left on his own. He leaned on his friend, who left radio to work in television, for help. Scannell decided to leave the radio station for a marketing position at Showtime and later became a programmer.

I want to do what’s not being done.
Herb Scannell

Nickelodeon’s golden age

As head of program development at Nickelodeon, Scannell helped shape a generation of children’s television. “Nickelodeon’s philosophy was, ‘We like kids just the way they are,’ ” he said, no matter their race, size or gender. “Whatever it might be, it was very inclusive to kids.”

He helped launch shows including “Dora the Explorer,” “Rugrats” and “Hey Arnold!” He was named network president in 1996, and for 10 consecutive years, Nickelodeon was the top-ranked children’s cable network, he said. The company challenged notions that boys wouldn’t watch shows with female lead characters, he said. And instead of waiting for talent agencies to reach out to them, they traveled the country in search of regular kids.

“We opened up the aperture for kids TV,” he said. “We wanted to do what hadn’t been done for kids.”

NICKELODEON DORA THE EXPLORER
"Dora the Explorer" has been an enormous hit for Nickelodeon.
(PR Newswire)

A ‘whoa’ moment

With the success of “Dora the Explorer,” the company sold out 23 days of a live show at Radio City Music Hall in New York City. Scannell watched as the crowd of children shouted “salta!” (Spanish for “jump”) during the show.

It was amazing to see children of all backgrounds chant in unison and bond over a culture rarely seen in media, he said. “It’s like a ‘whoa’ moment because you got 4,000 kids speaking Spanish because they’re connecting with a character, and it’s not about anything other than their joy,” he said.

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Switching gears

Sensing that the internet was going to change the way cable networks operated, Scannell left the company to join in the change. He became CEO of Next New Network, an online media company that helped video creators on YouTube distribute their work. He had an idea of turning it into the Viacom of internet television, but he and his team were early, and it was later sold to YouTube.

In a 1999 New York Times profile of Scannell, colleagues described him as quietly competitive under an amiable surface. Asked about that description, he responded that Nickelodeon stayed on top for 10 years because he constantly challenged the company to do more to keep other networks at bay. And if that’s being competitive, “I’m guilty as charged.”

“I want to do what’s not being done,” he said. “If I’m doing something that everybody else is doing, then I better do it differently.”

Celebrating Latinos

In 2017, after heading up BBC Worldwide North America, he was named CEO of Mitú, a digital media start-up targeting a Latino millennial audience. “I always harbored this idea that there was an opportunity to really elevate and celebrate Latino talents and audience,” he said.

But last summer, when the company didn’t raise enough money and Scannell realized he wouldn’t be able to achieve bigger plans he had for it, he resigned. “I was gonna go big or go home,” he said.

California living

At KPCC, Scannell said, he plans to emphasize local journalism, covering neighborhoods that may be underserved as other media outlets face financial strains. He also plans to grow the public radio station through podcasts, something that WNYC — where he served as board chairman — managed to do successfully, producing shows such as “2 Dope Queens” and “Freakonomics.”

California, he said, is a state that many people look to see what’s possible. “What happens here matters everywhere,” he said.