Moving Forward as Maggie

Associated Press Writer

By June, people in the Quantitative Management department were trading whispers across the rows of cubicles.

What’s wrong with Mark Stumpp? Why had he dropped so much weight so quickly? Was he sick? Nobody knew.

One day after lunch, Stumpp handed a small framed snapshot to Jim Scott, his friend and co-manager in the department for 14 years.

“Do you know who that is?” Stumpp asked.


Scott glanced at the picture of a tall woman with blond bangs and shook his head. He had never seen her.

“That’s the person you’re going to be working with a year from now,” Stumpp said.

Puzzled, Scott looked at the photo again, then back at Stumpp. The lady in the photograph, Stumpp said, is going to be me.

Prudential’s QM department manages billions of dollars of other people’s money. It’s a business that relies on a nurtured image of solidity, on the value implicit in longtime relationships.


And so as word of Stumpp’s intensely private decision spread through Prudential’s Newark headquarters, people realized that this wasn’t going to be just about him. It was going to be about them too.


Stumpp was uncomfortable in Mark’s body as far back as he could remember. Deep inside, at the nexus of body and mind, something felt terribly wrong.

“A malaise of the soul,” Stumpp said.


It is called gender dysphoria, a condition characterized by intense feelings of being the wrong sex. No one knows for sure what causes it.

Since the 1960s, thousands of people have quietly undergone hormone treatment and surgery to change sex. Most dropped out of their previous lives, resurfacing elsewhere with new identities.

Today, “more and more people are recognizing that this is not something that they have to be ashamed of,” said Eli Coleman, director of the Program in Human Sexuality at the University of Minnesota.

So perhaps it was just a matter of time before it happened at Prudential, a company with 61,000 people on its payroll. But in 22 years at Prudential, the last half working on personnel issues, Ron Andrews, a vice president of human resources, “had never encountered a more difficult issue.”


“What was difficult about this,” he said, “is I didn’t know anything.”

Stumpp, 51, had a reputation as one of the office’s class clowns. He dropped jokes into the middle of meetings, walked around the office without shoes, wore jeans when everyone else wore a suit.

But he was an acknowledged expert in the serious business of making money grow, and his department, a group of about 35 people, manages $32 billion on behalf of client pension funds and other institutional investors. Prudential’s own $8 billion in pension funds is managed here.

“My business is about trust,” Stumpp said, and he knew that trust would not be enhanced when people saw him “turn into a girl.”


So for years Stumpp postponed gender reassignment surgery. But in 1999, after seeing a therapist, he started taking estrogen and undergoing electrolysis -- all part of a still-reversible journey into what it might be like to be a woman.

It was two years before his coworkers began to notice that he was changing -- and to worry. The hormones were reshaping his body. Enlarged breasts could be hidden in loose-fitting shirts, but there was no way to disguise the disappearance of muscle.

In the summer of 2001, the few executives at Prudential who knew what was going on realized that the problem wasn’t that Stumpp was changing his sex. It was that he was coming back to work afterward.

It was one thing to figure out how the QM department would go on without Mark. It was quite another to figure out how to continue with someone named Maggie in his place.


Someone was going to have to explain this delicate situation in Prudential’s executive offices, to the company’s clients, to the marketing and sales representatives who vouched for Stumpp’s research.

Bringing it all together was Andrews’ job.

Throughout the summer and into the fall, Andrews worked his way down a list of people who needed to know, figuring out not just who they would tell in turn, but how they would do it.

In one months-long thread of calls, meetings and memos, he, company lawyers and sales managers drew up a list of 30 clients that relied on Stumpp’s research and investment strategies.


They decided that a Prudential customer relationship manager would contact each one to explain who would soon be handling their money. Then Andrews and his group wrote a script -- not word for word, but an extended outline with “key communication points.”

“We wanted our clients and our customers not to hear this from some sort of grapevine,” Andrews said. “We wanted to make sure they heard it from us.”

In the QM department, though, Stumpp’s story was still known only to Scott and another employee, Stacie Mintz. So, after Stumpp left on medical leave in January 2002, Scott called the homes of everyone in the department.

“I need to talk to you about Mark,” each conversation began.


Next morning, in the parking garage, Mintz ran into the coworker she thought most likely to have a problem with the new Stumpp.

“Isn’t that amazing about Mark?” Mintz said, then held her breath for the answer.

“Well, if it makes her happy, it makes her happy,” the worker replied.

A few days later, on Jan. 8, a two-page memo arrived in the e-mail box of everyone in the department.


“From: M. Stumpp”

“Subject: Me.”

The note poked fun at the situation, but also appealed for understanding. And it emphasized that returning to work was something that Stumpp had a legal right to do.

“This will be new ground for all of us,” Stumpp wrote. “However, if Sept. 11 taught us anything, it was that life is far too precious and short. Each of us must strive to be at peace with ourselves.”


She signed the note “Margaret.”

The note leapfrogged around the company, and soon employees started e-mailing back. Many, including some top executives, expressed support. A few of the women offered to help Stumpp pick out clothes.

Some took more convincing. In the weeks before Stumpp’s scheduled return date -- Feb. 4, 2002 -- Mintz says it felt as if there were a line of coworkers at her door, mostly concerned about how to act when Mark walked in as Margaret.

Stumpp, recuperating at home, offered to return at first in men’s clothes if it would make people more comfortable.


No, his fellow workers replied, if you’re Maggie, then come back as Maggie. We’re as ready as we’ll ever be.


Maggie Stumpp made it to the fourth floor before nearly everyone else that first morning back. Her coworkers walked in and there she was, joking about the joy of being thin, of having to wear pantyhose, of how hard it had been to find shoes in her size.

“It was awkward, but ... it was kind of a relief to have it all out in the open, and to have all the questions about what she was going to look like answered,” Mintz said.


It was a beginning.

One of the first trials came a few weeks after Stumpp’s return, when the firm took a call from a longtime client, a labor union whose members’ reputations did not gibe with heels and pantyhose.

The union officials asked to meet Stumpp to reevaluate her suitability to continue managing their business. The department braced to lose the account.

They met over dinner at a steakhouse. The first few hours were spent discussing the stock market and the economy, smoothed over by a couple of drinks. Gradually, the union men’s doubts appeared to ease.


“You know, you really don’t look so bad,” one leaned over to tell Stumpp. She chalked it up as a compliment. Prudential kept the account.

Inside Prudential, however, there were still some tensions. To ease the uncertainties of some female colleagues, Andrews set aside a small bathroom for her for six months. After that, she could use the women’s room.

Six months and a day after Stumpp returned, a female employee protested Stumpp’s presence in the adjoining stall of the women’s room.

“Grow up!” Andrews told her, intentionally setting a tone. Although the company did not expect all its employees to accept Stumpp personally, they would be expected to do so professionally.


There are still moments when Stumpp feels the stares, imagines that every woman at Prudential is rating her performance. There are inevitable stumbles and awkward moments.

“The hardest thing is the pronouns,” Scott said. “It just drives me crazy."There are times now when the phone in Stumpp’s office rings and the voice asks to speak to Mark. Depending on the nature of the call and her mood, she relishes a certain answer.

“Oh, him,” Maggie Stumpp says. “We got rid of him a long time ago.”