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Live from AFI Fest, Mahershala Ali and Benjamin Cleary talk ‘Swan Song’

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Hello! It’s Mark Olsen, film writer for The Times and “The Envelope” podcast co-host.

This week on the show, I’m excited to share a bonus episode, which was recorded live after the world premiere of “Swan Song” at AFI Fest. I got to chat with writer/director Benjamin Cleary and Mahershala Ali — who not only starred in the film (as two characters!) but also produced it. You can hear all about how they created this sci-fi drama and the heartbreaking inspiration behind the film now wherever you get your podcasts or on latimes.com, where you can also read the full transcript.

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Mahershala Ali being interviewed by Mark Olsen
Mahershala Ali and Mark Olsen
(Rob Latour / AFI / Shutterstock )

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