Trump tells girl that believing in Santa Claus at 7 is ‘marginal’

President Trump listens on the phone as he shares updates on Santa’s movements from the North American Aerospace Defense Command's Santa tracker on Christmas Eve.
(Jacquelyn Martin / Associated Press)

President Trump and First Lady Melania Trump on Christmas Eve took calls from children anxious to find out where Santa was on his gift-giving journey.

In one conversation, Trump asked a 7-year-old girl named Collman: “Are you still a believer in Santa?” He listened for a moment before adding: “Because at 7, it’s marginal, right?” Trump listened again and chuckled before saying: “Well, you just enjoy yourself.”

For the record:

4:40 p.m. Dec. 25, 2018A previous headline of this article identified Coleman, a child who spoke to President Trump, as a boy. The child, whose name is Collman, is a girl.

Mrs. Trump told a caller that Santa was in the Sahara. Several minutes later, she reported that Santa was far away in Morocco, but would be at the caller’s home on Christmas morning.


Mrs. Trump later tweeted that helping children track Santa “is becoming one of my favorite traditions!”

The NORAD Tracks Santa program became a Christmas Eve tradition after a child mistakenly called the forerunner to the North American Aerospace Defense Command in 1955 and asked to speak to Santa.

The program wasn’t affected by the government shutdown. It’s run by volunteers at Peterson Air Force Base in Colorado using preapproved funding.

The Trumps later traveled to Washington National Cathedral to attend the Solemn Holy Eucharist of Christmas Eve. The cathedral’s website said the program included readings from Holy Scripture, favorite congregational hymns and seasonal choral and instrumental music as well as Holy Communion. Passes were required.

Trump most likely would have been attending Christmas services at a church near his estate in Palm Beach, Fla. But he scrapped plans to head to Florida for the holidays after parts of the government were forced to shut down indefinitely in a budget stalemate with Congress.