The Times podcast: Russia and China, forever frenemies

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Russian President Vladimir Putin, left, and China’s President Xi Jinping shake hands prior to their talks on the sideline of the 11th edition of the BRICS Summit, in Brasilia, Brazil on Nov. 12, 2019.
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On Feb. 4, Russian President Vladimir Putin met with Chinese leader Xi Jinping just hours ahead of the opening ceremony for the Beijing Winter Olympics. The meeting made headlines, and has people asking: Could China be the overlooked player in the Russia-Ukraine crisis?

Today, we dive into the complicated history between the two countries — and whether Russia’s moves on Ukraine might serve as a template with China and Taiwan.


Host: Gustavo Arellano

Guests: L.A. Times China correspondent Stephanie Yang, and The New School international affairs professor Nina L. Khrushcheva

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About The Times

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