Column: Almost no one was spared in that racist conversation among top L.A. Latino officials

A woman with long black hair wearing a dressy white suit stands in front of tilework, holding a microphone
Nury Martinez has stepped down as L.A. City Council president and taken a leave of absence after she was heard making racist remarks on a recording.
(Al Seib / Los Angeles Times)

Since the entire city seems to be dissecting the secret Los Angeles City Hall recordings for expressions of hatred against nearly every demographic group, allow me to chime in.

About Armenians.

Among the many casual slurs made by several of our city’s high-profile Latino Democratic officials in a secretly recorded conversation about redistricting were a few mild ones directed at a former City Hall staffer and my fellow Armenian American, Areen Ibranossian.

A veteran of Los Angeles politics and local campaigns, Ibranossian worked as Councilman Paul Krekorian’s chief of staff before leaving to become a political consultant in 2018.

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In the recordings, he is described as “the guy with the one eyebrow,” by Nury Martinez, who stepped down from her post as City Council president on Monday after The Times broke the story Sunday. Someone then speculates about his last name. “It ends in i-a-n, betcha,” a councilman says.

Being dismissive of someone’s facial features is crass and immature. And guessing that an Armenian American’s name ends in i-a-n is the intellectual equivalent of calling water wet. No duh.

Certainly, this coarseness is not in the same league as Martinez describing City Councilman Mike Bonin, who is gay, as “a little bitch,” describing his son, who is Black, as a monkey, or calling brown-skinned Oaxacans who have settled in Koreatown ugly.

But it underscores the depressing clannishness of these Latino officials, and their apparent belief that everybody who is not like them is fair game to be trampled in the quest for political muscle.

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The recordings were posted on a now-defunct account on the social media website Reddit. Over the weekend, my colleagues David Zahniser, Julia Wick, Benjamin Oreskes, Dakota Smith and Gustavo Arellano worked to authenticate the recordings and translate where necessary, well aware of the story’s earth-shattering implications for race relations in Los Angeles.


Besides Martinez and De León, the strategy session also included Los Angeles City Councilman Gil Cedillo and Ron Herrera, president of the Los Angeles County Federation of Labor. On Monday, Herrera resigned his post. The conversation focused on slicing and dicing the city’s council district maps to increase Latino political power and dilute Black political power.

That’s bad enough. But the casual spouting of hatred directed at Black people by some of the city’s most powerful Latino officials is exactly the kind of spark that can ignite unrest and, yes, violence.

The story has mushroomed into a full-blown civic crisis, with calls from many quarters — including from longtime allies of the four — for them to resign. On Tuesday, Martinez announced she would take a leave of absence from the council.

Ibranossian, understandably, was reluctant to descend into the muck when I reached out to him Monday.

As someone with an Armenian surname and heritage, I am acutely aware of anti-Armenian sentiment, and wondered if he was disturbed by Martinez’s characterization.

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“I am a 40-year-old man,” he told me. “I have a wife and two kids. This is not something I worry about.”

After some reflection, he said via email Tuesday that he was bothered. “This type of depiction of Armenians is not uncommon and is too often tolerated,” he said. “It’s something we as a community have become accustomed to, unfortunately.”

Armenians, victims of what is often called the 20th century’s first genocide, at the hands of the Ottoman Empire, are familiar with ethnic animus. (Hitler cited the genocide approvingly in 1939, when he said: “Who, after all, speaks today of the annihilation of the Armenians?”)

Ibranossian told me his family lived in Torrance for several years after emigrating from Iran to the United States. In that overwhelmingly white suburb, he was called names like “towel head” and “camel jockey,” racist slurs that are doubly stupid because they have no basis in reality. Armenians do not wear turbans, and there are no deserts in Armenia.

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After his family moved to Glendale, a city with one of the highest concentrations of Armenians outside Yerevan, the Armenian capital, there was nothing novel about being Armenian. He graduated from high school at the turn of the millennium just ahead of a turbulent time in Glendale, when the city was beset by ethnic conflict between Armenian and Mexican teens.

“These were two ethnic groups that have kind of come up together in a community that was predominantly white,” Ibranossian said. It was less about racial animus, he said, and “more about finding their space.”

When my father was growing up in the Central Valley in the 1930s and 1940s, anti-Armenian prejudice was a daily fact of life. Armenians were the new immigrants — the feared minority — soon to be replaced by swelling numbers of African Americans and Mexican immigrants.

In those days, the slur du jour for Armenians was “Fresno Indian.”

Earlier this month, during a memorial celebration for my dad, who died two years ago, my older sister told me a story I had never heard before: As a teenager in Fresno, our father had arrived at a girl’s house to pick her up for a date and heard a neighbor say to her parents, “You’re not letting your daughter date an Armenian, are you?” That unexpected wound left a lifelong scar.

But Armenians are nothing if not clannish as well. And racism among ethnic groups flows both ways.

In the summers, for instance, my grandmother urged her sons to stay out of Fresno’s harsh midday sun.

Why? For a shameful reason. She didn’t want people to mistake them for Mexicans.