The Times podcast: Mega-drought + mega-rain = uh-oh!

A man bicycles past a large puddle, with a rainbow in the background
A man rides his bike along Olive Mill Road in Montecito in 2018 after a major storm hit the burn area.
(Wally Skalij / Los Angeles Times)

When it rains, it pours, and when it pours after a long dry spell, water can become dangerous. Fire-scarred lands are vulnerable to mudslides that can devastate homes. Parched soil can’t absorb the rain that comes. Water, water everywhere, and California is still on the brink.


Today, we reconvene our Masters of Disasters to discuss how too much rain after a drought can be bad. And who knew the term “mudslide” could be so controversial?

Host: Gustavo Arellano

Guests: L.A. Times earthquake reporter Ron Lin, wildfire reporter Alex Wigglesworth and coastal reporter Rosanna Xia

More reading:

Threat of mudslides returns to California after devastating fires. How do they work?

California rains break all-time records, spurring floods and mudslides

October’s torrential rains brought some drought relief, but California’s big picture still bleak

About The Times

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