The Times podcast: How NCAA athletes cash in on name, image and likeness

A gymnast does a backflip off the bars
UCLA’s Jordan Chiles competes on the uneven bars during an NCAA gymnastics meet in 2022.
(John McCoy / Associated Press)

For over 100 years, college athletes couldn’t make money competing in their sports. A new NCAA rule around name, image and likeness, or NIL, has changed that. The biggest winners? Gymnasts.

Today, we talk to a few current and former gymnasts at UCLA, including Olympians Jordyn Wieber and Jordan Chiles, about how this rule change has affected their lives. Read the full transcript here.


Host: Gustavo Arellano

Guests: L.A. Times college sports and NBA reporter Thuc Nhi Nguyen

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