The Times podcast: Late-night TV fights for its life, again

A man in a blue suit and tie smiling and sitting at a desk against a blue background
Trevor Noah films “The Daily Show” in New York in 2015.
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For decades, late-night television talk shows were where America snuggled up together and we laughed. The hosts were household names, but also very male and white. Things diversified a bit last decade with hosts such as Trevor Noah and Samantha Bee. But now Bee’s show is gone, and Noah is on his way out.


Today, what’s next for late-night television? It’s a uniquely American genre whose obituary has been written again and again, yet somehow continues to stumble along. Read the full transcript here.

Host: Gustavo Arellano

Guests: L.A. Times television critic Lorraine Ali

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